Expelled release splits Christians
Posted on April 18th, 2008 by blue collar scientistI’ve said a number of times here that Christian creationists, whether ID or otherwise, who deny science are religious extremists. At various times, I’ve pointed out Ken Miller, the Clergy Letter Project (which has 11,000 religious leaders affirming evolution), and other examples to support my claim that creationists are minority radicals.
(Of course one reason that I promote this meme over and over is to marginalize creationists and assist any split that may develop between them and more mainstream religionists. But don’t tell anyone. I wouldn’t want to be accused of doing framing wrong, or anything.)
Today there’s another example of how radical creationism is a fringe view. Reasons To Believe is an non-denominational Christian think tank, and they take Christian apologetics pretty seriously. They are also among the more thoughtful such groups. Some time back, they posted some tentative comments on Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed, which opens today:
Many people have asked Reasons to Believe (RTB) to make a statement about the movie. For the sake of integrity, we cannot offer an assessment until our scholar team has had a chance to view the movie.
RTB views the scientific enterprise as a vital component of carrying out one of God’s first recorded commands to Adam and Eve. Without the understanding derived from scientific investigation, it would be impossible to take care of this home God provided for us.
I’m quoting selectively. They have some questionable material up there, but on the whole these are reasonable people that you could talk to. They understand their own shortcomings, and they understand the value of science.
Now some of the Reasons To Believe leaders have seen the movie, and sources say they have released this statement:
After previewing the promotional materials provided by the movie’s marketers, we were concerned that the movie took an adversarial approach to the scientific community. A number of RTB scholars and staff attended a prerelease screening in Los Angeles recently and confirmed that EXPELLED definitely does take such an approach…. EXPELLED implicitly argues that the scientific community deems certain questions off-limits, particularly any question about the legitimacy of neo-Darwinian evolution. The movie further argues that academia, the media, and the courts all conspire as “thought police” to oppress any and all dissent from the party line.
Clearly some oppression and discrimination have occurred, but the experience of RTB scholars and many of their contacts refutes the movie’s premise that the scientific community systemically and unilaterally fosters these injustices.
They end with a policy decision:
Therefore, we ask all chapter members and volunteers to refrain from endorsing EXPELLED in any official way.
Reaction to this has been favorable:
Kudos to them. This is outstanding.
And again:
indeed. this is an excellent response!
is this on the web anywhere? I would like to direct others to read this.
And yet again:
Yes. It is posted prominently on the front page of the RTB site at www.reasons.org.
I am very proud of them for this response.
I could go on - the favorable reaction to Reasons To Believe’s stance against the movie continues.
The point of all this? Expelled isn’t even appealing to all of its expected core audience. Expelled is so extremist that it has split their demographic.
Hat tip to Panda’s Thumb.
Tags: creationism, expelled, Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed, religion, religious extremism

April 18th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
In listing people who have been victimized for teaching evolution, I was mildly surprised to discover how many of them were faithful Christians. Protestations of shared faith, it appears, are not a sufficient shield against harassment.
April 20th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
The author states… “Christian creationists, whether ID or otherwise, who deny science are religious extremists.”
Ok back to basics here. Check your dictionary. “Science” refers to the the process of study using the scientific method process of testing . One cannot believe in “science,” rather they may or may not believe in scientific fact (the desirable outcome of utilizing the scientific method). The average Christian does not believe in the scientific fact of evolution, simply because it has not been proven to be fact. Unfortunately for Darwinians, evolution still finds it home under the category of “theory.”
May 6th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Darwinians only exist when there is a Creationist around. I’ve never met anyone who identifies themself as a Darwinist. This is nothing more than a word game, just the same as insisting that the title “theory” implies that it is inaccurate. Evolution is a naturally occurring, observable fact, and there is no scientific debate regarding it. The THEORY of evolution attempts to explain HOW and WHY evolution occurs. There are certainly a variety of viewpoints regarding the particulars of the evolutionary process, but things do evolve. Gravity is a fact. When you drop an apple, it falls to the ground. The THEORY of gravitation attempts to explain HOW and WHY things fall to the ground. See where this is going? It is intellectually dishonest to deliberately misuse terminology, and wouldn’t be necessary if there was any more compelling argument available to use.
July 7th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
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